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For a market expectation of inflation you can check RRB prices. The easiest way is to look at the breakeven spread. This shows the difference between RRB's and nominal bonds, it's the amount of inflation where you'd 'breakeven' by buying one or the other. You can find this easily for the 10 year by searching for cdggbe10:ind. The first hit should be a Bloomberg quote. It's currently around 2% from a high of 2.5% and a low of 1.8% this year. This doesn't include a premium for the inflation insurance you get by buying RRB's. You could say that expectations have been pretty stable and somewhat less than 2%.

Nice summary Stephen, thanks!

brian: good find! The 10 year break-even spread is currently very close to 2%. But strangely, it spiked up to 2.5% around January, and again in April.

Have you seen this IMF paper: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/spn/2009/spn0903.pdf

The authors (including a few Canadians (Freedman, Laxton)) conclude that fiscal multipliers are much larger with accomodative monetary policy (no surprises there).

A properly funded PBO could be scoring the stimulus every quarter.

Lots of interesting information there. But I'm getting more pessimistic, not less. Employment and output may have returned to pre-recession levels but population and potential output growth mean there's still a gap. Interest rates are not far from the lower bound.

It still looks to me far too much like the great depression. I think output in the depression was back to pre-depression levels a few years in, but that did not mean the depression and the misery of unemployment were over. Also, I think interest rates blipped up in the middle of the depression and in the middle of Japan's "lost decade". It's as if people figure that if they just shut their eyes and start acting as if everything was normal, it will be normal.

And I'm afraid of the mentality that seems to be breaking out all over the world that we must balance the books immediately. Even if Canada doesn't need more stimulus, the U.S. sure does, and if it doesn't get it, there will be a big negative shock headed our way. That means I think we do need more stimulus. Think of it, as you said, as insurance.

Out here in the real world, I know of people who have worked all their lives, been laid off, and can't find work. Some just keep going back for more re-training. No jobs with the training they have, so what else can you do?

I've started to call it a Depression. I've been job hunting for ages. The lines are a mile long.

I was at one interview where I was told "we like you, we want to hire you, but our customers lost their bank credit and so we can't because they revoked their orders."

People won't call it a Depression unless there are bread lines. Eighty years of social policy have managed to change the face of unemployment, but unemployment is still there. Underemployment is even worse.

We are dashing a generation's dreams. I don't know what the Baby Boom expects to retire on if they won't hire the future workers to produce that future.

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